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Post by giardanobruno on Feb 20, 2010 20:28:46 GMT -5
This quote from Einstein is used in an argument against me by a friend of mine when religion came to the discussion table. My prompt reply was science is not new . Find evidence of how things are governed. Evidence or various other laws exist even humans are there or not in this world. Religion is created by mankind. There are so many religions dropped out in the history. Those religions could not survive in the society. Science in the other hand not the same. Day by day we have to find governing laws or principals of our surrounding. The findings shall used again to make machinery or appliances(am a Techi)for various other purposes. Religion also use these findings for their own ends. To bring down mass distruction to this world. I cannot agree with this quotation.
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Post by Michael on Feb 20, 2010 23:45:41 GMT -5
The quote comes from Science, Philosophy and Religion, A Symposium, published by the Conference on Science, Philosophy and Religion in Their Relation to the Democratic Way of Life, Inc., New York, 1941. It appears about halfway down the page at this site: www.sacred-texts.com/aor/einstein/einsci.htmThis is the paragraph in which the quotation appears: While Eistein did say that a scientist's search for truth has its roots in religion, he went on to say that such religion could be described as faith in the possibility that the regulations valid for the world of existence are rational.The last sentence (quoted above) suggests that Eisntein was merely playing with words, being poetic, or engaging in hyperbole. He certainly wasn't saying that science is lame if it fails to take on board a belief in the existence of a god named Yahweh or Allah. Theists put that spin on the quotation in order to gain debating points, but Einstein would have been the first to say, "That's not what I meant!"
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Post by Seti on Feb 21, 2010 6:47:11 GMT -5
It's really quite unfortunate that Einstein - and Stephen Hawking - had a habit of referring to "god" when they meant something like the "god of Spinoza" - or less, just the mathematical constants that happen to exist in our Universe. They weren't expecting the rise of lying, quote-mining theocrats who would try to misappropriate their words and kidnap their reputations.
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Post by giardanobruno on Feb 21, 2010 7:30:02 GMT -5
I thought I am the only one confronted with these arguments. Great scientist also make mistakes. In wikipedia I found more quotes from Einstein.Beside that Encyclopedia Britannica describe him as a religious person. Following is from Britannica 2010 ultimate edition. Einstein also clarified his religious views, stating that he believed there was an “old one” who was the ultimate lawgiver. He wrote that he did not believe in a personal God that intervened in human affairs but instead believed in the God of the 17th-century Dutch Jewish philosopher Benedict de Spinoza—the God of harmony and beauty. His task, he believed, was to formulate a master theory that would allow him to “read the mind of God.”
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Post by khan on Feb 21, 2010 17:44:27 GMT -5
Tell them Einstein's God is not of the Bible., but a pantheist one.
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Post by unbeliever on Jul 12, 2010 12:21:44 GMT -5
I prefer to say that "philosophy is lame and blind without science," but science also needs philosophy in order to organize the data of science. It's been said that a heap of bricks is not a house, and a heap of facts is not a science. Without using philosophy to relate scientific findings to humans, all science has is a heap of facts.
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