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Post by Seti on Mar 24, 2010 7:39:22 GMT -5
That's tragic, Sandy - I was so sad to read it. But unfortunately it's not unusual. One of the ways the church gets such a grip on young people is by making them feel guilty for being who they are, for thinking about sex - particularly gay sex. They tell them it's a dreadful sin, and the only way to redemption is through their crazy Jeebus story. When someone is torn apart, unable to be anything but what they are but unable to grasp the giant scary thought that the church is flat-out lying to them, it destroys them. Oh, for a world without that kind of cruelty. It wouldn't be perfect, but at least it might be a little more honest.
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Post by sandyprice on Mar 25, 2010 5:44:26 GMT -5
It is all about a small group of people demanding power over larger groups and sadly it involves terrorising threats. We are seeing this today in American politics and it makes me sick.
I remember reading the opinions of intelligent writers who did not believe in any spiritual ghost hovering over anyone. These writers also explained that there was no God to protect us from harm. In my young mind it put the whole survival thing back on the individual.
It is apparent that the more people who believe in any God refuse to discuss why they take their lives and give them to God. My asking has turned into a war with people screaming at me that any thought regarding a doubt about the whole heaven aspect is a mortal insult.
The problem is not my asking the question but that these believers cannot answer it and are offended that anyone would dare to ask. There is no advantage to having an expanded brain capable of questioning anything if we are trained like dogs to follow orders.
I have been told a thousand times to stop asking questions because nobody likes or respects me. The internet is not a popularity contest....or is it? I saw this technology as a tool for communication wih others. I was wrong it is a tool for like-minded people to expel others from their world.
They will choose wars and killing others rather than accept another opinion about life and death. I hope someone is taking all this rejection in and writing warning signs for the future.
I'm too old to fight any longer.
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Post by Seti on Mar 25, 2010 15:09:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm getting to the point in my life where I'm beginning to say "Fuq 'em, I'm going down to the beach to read a book." Comes a time you can begin to think about passing the baton. (Only then, someone says something so stupid you just have to jump on them, and off you go again!)
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Post by sandyprice on Mar 27, 2010 9:53:59 GMT -5
Politics has been a part of my life since WW2. My family was anti-Semitic, homophobic and throughly disappointed with their offsprings. I think the war exposed the horrors of the racist culture found all over the world.
I live in a senior development and I see this attitude of distrust of their own children and grandchildren. Life has turned out to be not what anyone here wanted. The base of this community is from the bible belt. If they learned compassion for others, they lost it and I'm wondering if WW2 had something to do with it.
In my world, Christians are simply annoying in their pursuit to bring others into their tent. They can't sell Jesus so they try to scare people into the fear of hell and damnation.
This is not a wealthy community but a group of hard working blue collar retirees. Most have lost contact with their children and have fallen back into Jesus Christ. I have no problem with this attitude and have stayed away socially with many of them. I see and hear the dialog of the Tea Party threats from people who have felt a loss of their desires through some veil of liberalism. I hear Rush Limbaugh from far too many who have no clue of the history of America and certainly no clue of the history of Christianity.
I see a revolution coming in America and it is pointed at President Obama. Organized Christian groups want their nation back.
All these years (since WW2) I had no fear of this kind of revolution but the bottom of American culture has organized as a movement of fascism. I tried to warn many of the internet sites of this horror and have been banned from posting again.
Americans want this revolution or a change of standards in the Constitution Bill of Rights. Individual freedoms are to be removed from American culture. The Bible must be obeyed meaning prison or death for adulterers, homosexuals, heathens and even Christian cults who have a different interpretation of the bible.
Evangelicals want the power of the Federal Government or they will bring on a new revolution to all States. I used my internet tool to warn people and I have paid the price of being labeled as completely insane. My insanity comes from a lifetime of reading the history of nations who fell into religion.
The news last night mentioned that Iraq has decided to go Secular and run the nation without God. This could be because America has failed as a nation of Christians. We sent a group from Pat Robertson's University (Black Water) to do the job of protecting our officials and instead they are being investigated for murdering Iraqis on our side.
Arming Christians to fight for Jesus Christ will destroy America. This is the true insanity growing in America and the rest of the world.
It will take more than one old woman in the desert to wake up people from this new crusade/inquisition that is growing within the Republican Party. There are 43 million Americans who have identified themselves a non-religious. This came from The American Humanist Organization in a mailer this morning.
All I can see in my mind's eye is Germany in the 30s. Who will stop this movement in America? There is nobody, no nation left who will step in.
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